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molls:

Why does the gender of the person making any sort of joke make a difference?
This is why I typically avoid conversations based on opinion driven by raw emotion and personal experience (or lack thereof). There’s no logic involved, just feelings. There will never be a right answer.

I have been so completely crazed this week between prepping for the LA show as well as NYC business otherwise I would have responded right away but I haven’t been on Tumblr much (thanks Nudawn for letting me know).
When discussing or joking about the topic of rape, not just any sort of joke, but rape (which was the initial question here), gender absolutely plays a role and there is a big difference between a man joking about it and a woman.  This has nothing to do with my personal opinions based on experience, which I’m very relieved to say that I have none when it comes to rape.  It is indeed based on logic, history of sexuality between the male and female human species, sociology, and more.
When a male jokes about rape, it’s offensive.  Men in our society do the raping and the majority of women are left to suffer in numerous ways (hello, the government wanting to make abortion illegal even for rape victims in just one example).  When a female jokes about rape, it’s despicable.  
Women are second class citizens in this world.  You may think that we’re making progress, which we kinda of are but at a turtle’s pace.  I would love to see a woman in power in this county in my lifetime, taking on an important government role but it’s unlikely (the last election made that very clear).  That’s just government but it happens in all industries.  Women are still only viewed as sexual objects and when women joke about rape, that’s like saying it’s “really not THAT bad” to society and to men.
Stand on a street corner in NYC for a half hour and count how many times women walking on the street are harassed by men.  Read the newspaper every day and count how many stories are printed about rape.  It just happened here the other day - a woman was waiting for the subway and was approached by some random guy asking her questions.  She replied and got on the subway to return to her hotel room in the Bronx.  The guy ended up following her, pushing his way into her hotel door and raping her. This event is not personal to me but you bet your ass that this one action affects all women.  These demonstrations are indeed logic.
I will rarely use Tumblr as a platform to speak out about social issues as I am very outspoken in my day to day life.  I use Tumblr as a cute little escape from work, writing stories about accessories and textiles which is my specialty after studying at FIT and owning accessories manufacturing businesses for over 10 years.  By professional trade, I am a 38-year-old television executive, programming to be exact (which means we oversee the channel).  I’ve worked in the business since 1994 and I see how women are treated not only in the entertainment industry but all aspects of society because I am educated and very active in the business world (btw, everything in life is business).
So yes, there is a difference when a male jokes about rape versus a female joking about rape but I’m not going to spend any more time talking about it on Tumblr.  It’s Saturday and it’s way too nice out!  But if you want to continue the discussion, feel free to message me and I’ll send you my email address. 
Deep breath :)  need some iced coffee and what’s everyone doing on this 90 degree day?

molls:

Why does the gender of the person making any sort of joke make a difference?

This is why I typically avoid conversations based on opinion driven by raw emotion and personal experience (or lack thereof). There’s no logic involved, just feelings. There will never be a right answer.

I have been so completely crazed this week between prepping for the LA show as well as NYC business otherwise I would have responded right away but I haven’t been on Tumblr much (thanks Nudawn for letting me know).

When discussing or joking about the topic of rape, not just any sort of joke, but rape (which was the initial question here), gender absolutely plays a role and there is a big difference between a man joking about it and a woman.  This has nothing to do with my personal opinions based on experience, which I’m very relieved to say that I have none when it comes to rape.  It is indeed based on logic, history of sexuality between the male and female human species, sociology, and more.

When a male jokes about rape, it’s offensive.  Men in our society do the raping and the majority of women are left to suffer in numerous ways (hello, the government wanting to make abortion illegal even for rape victims in just one example).  When a female jokes about rape, it’s despicable.  

Women are second class citizens in this world.  You may think that we’re making progress, which we kinda of are but at a turtle’s pace.  I would love to see a woman in power in this county in my lifetime, taking on an important government role but it’s unlikely (the last election made that very clear).  That’s just government but it happens in all industries.  Women are still only viewed as sexual objects and when women joke about rape, that’s like saying it’s “really not THAT bad” to society and to men.

Stand on a street corner in NYC for a half hour and count how many times women walking on the street are harassed by men.  Read the newspaper every day and count how many stories are printed about rape.  It just happened here the other day - a woman was waiting for the subway and was approached by some random guy asking her questions.  She replied and got on the subway to return to her hotel room in the Bronx.  The guy ended up following her, pushing his way into her hotel door and raping her. This event is not personal to me but you bet your ass that this one action affects all women.  These demonstrations are indeed logic.

I will rarely use Tumblr as a platform to speak out about social issues as I am very outspoken in my day to day life.  I use Tumblr as a cute little escape from work, writing stories about accessories and textiles which is my specialty after studying at FIT and owning accessories manufacturing businesses for over 10 years.  By professional trade, I am a 38-year-old television executive, programming to be exact (which means we oversee the channel).  I’ve worked in the business since 1994 and I see how women are treated not only in the entertainment industry but all aspects of society because I am educated and very active in the business world (btw, everything in life is business).

So yes, there is a difference when a male jokes about rape versus a female joking about rape but I’m not going to spend any more time talking about it on Tumblr.  It’s Saturday and it’s way too nice out!  But if you want to continue the discussion, feel free to message me and I’ll send you my email address. 

Deep breath :)  need some iced coffee and what’s everyone doing on this 90 degree day?

  1. tangledupinblonde reblogged this from molls and added:
    I have been so completely crazed this week between prepping for the LA show as well as NYC business otherwise I would...
  2. thinkingupblognamesishard said: I’d say that the person making a joke is part of the framing of a joke. If I, as a middle class white male, make a joke about being poor, black, and pregnant it’s rather different to a black mother from an inner city making the same joke.
  3. camcq1 reblogged this from molls and added:
    ^ Best way anyone could have said it. Well put, Molls.
  4. brpaul3119 reblogged this from molls
  5. annahell said: Another reason: “worse enough”.
  6. natsferatu said: Rape jokes are never funny, but GIRLS is a great show. Anyway, that’s unrelated. Love ya, Molls!
  7. kattnip said: I have been taking some improv classes recently, and we talked about what men or women could get away with in comedy. We didn’t reach any concrete answers, but we did agree that when a man says something can have a different connotation than a woman.
  8. ramou said: The FEELINGS is why I have typed and deleted 10 responses in the HG thread.
  9. my-0nlyretreat reblogged this from molls
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